Good morning guys! I hope everyone had a great weekend. I love this kid. I have posted several articles in my groups page. I agree he’s the best WR in this class. Not the biggest, not the fastest but he’s simply the best. I still want the OT but if JD did pick him I would be more than fine with that. I saw that game against Utah. Amazing. You said it David. They knew the ball was going to him and they couldn’t do a thing to stop him. Don’t even think about playing zone against him. Especially with Rodgers chucking it. Looks like Ohio St. is turning into WR University! They will have Marvin Harrison Jr. Coming out next April. He’s a super talent and he’s 6’4” 205 and might be the best one yet. They have a couple of others in the pipeline too.
This kid sounds like Cooper Kupp to me. I'm still steadfastly in the OT at #13 camp.
WR University used to be Clemson. I saw Dabo speak at a Nike coaches clinic a few years back. The guy could literally speak for hours about WR release techniques.
In all trade down scenarios you obtain the best value when teams are trading up for a QB. But if you look at this draft, there are no playmaking WR’s other than JSN. Confident that there will be trade value at 13 for Jaxon.( Patriots at 14 ? Crazy ) It’s about adding weapons, and controlling the cost of a dominating player for 5 years. Although the WR market has cooled somewhat, dominant WR’s are paid north of 18 million, and those prima donnas are not shy. Superbowl teams draft playmakers. With the Jets , there is an added incentive, you want to keep Rodgers for 2 + years, what better way than giving him great tools. Only five picks, and you draft a high floor non essential, very tough on other parts of the roster.. I like some of the OT’s in the second round, and a couple of third day Centers, but the rest of the draft gets difficult, and tough roster decisions will come quickly
I think you can call the 30 days before the draft “ the lying season”. Everything out there is viewed with a grain of salt.
For Jet fans, this year is an oddity because they are not drafting in the top six since they took that world famous mother and wife beater Darron Lee with the 20th pick.
Throw in the AR never ending drama and it makes this draft for the Jets sort of a mystery.
Yes, I know the pick should be a tackle but it’s possible the top three could be gone. Put in the fact, that the top rated tackle’s arms might be too short to play tackle, he might be an NFL guard adds more mystery to the Jets draft this year.
Following is a few bits and pieces from todays Peter King’s Monday article. Ironically he mentioned JSN in two different sections
T-minus 10 days to round one of the draft, and the NFL world is hopping.
Four big names in the first round I heard a lot about in recent days. I cast a wide net. I listen. I pry with people I’ve known for a while.
Jaxon Smith-Njigba had a left hamstring injury last year. He had a gigantic 2021 season at Ohio State, then played only 60 snaps in 2022, and I’m hearing some reticence about taking a guy 12th or 18th in the first round when, in a 4.5-month season, he managed to play the equivalent of one football game with a hamstring injury.
What I’m Hearing
I pass these mini-nuggets along as a fan service. They are among the things I’m hearing about the top of the 2023 draft.
Peter Skoronski’s an interesting case. The Northwestern tackle has the dreaded short-arm plague, and two teams in the top 10 see him now as a guard. So what? Guard Chris Lindstrom got drafted 14th by the Falcons in 2019, and he’s now a cornerstone player in Atlanta. Ditto Zack Martin (16th) in Dallas, and with a slightly smaller exclamation point, Quenton Nelson (sixth) in Indy. All got second contracts. If Skoronski’s a great guard, getting picked ninth or 12th or 15th is absolutely fine.
This is not an overriding negative on Jaxon Smith-Njigba, an excellent receiver prospect. But the Ohio State football season was five months long last year, including practice, and Smith-Njigba got a left hamstring injury early, and he played 60 snaps total in three games, and never got on the field in the last 10 weeks. He runs a 4.48 40-. I’m not the only one wondering: How is Jaxon Smith-Njigba the top-rated receiver on so many boards with 10 days to go?
David, maybe your sources can tell you how the AR drama is affecting the NFL schedule maker this year. There has to be some anxiety in that job this year.
I disagree with the idea of taking an OG in the top 20. I don't care how good they are. In fact, I doubt that I'd ever take an OG in the 1st round. Taking one that early, may make your OL better, but imo it's a sure-fire way to wreck your team's salary schedule and cause cap issues.
Just my opinion but that whole “arms are too short” stuff has been disproved time and time again. Northwestern recently produced another short arm OT ( R.Slater) who’s now a pro bowler for the Chargers. Watching film on Skoronski I’m not concerned one bit if we pick him.
I hate to disagree with you but the Tyrannosaurus Rex who had short arms usually got his ass beat by the brontosaurus and triceratops. He usually got the better of the pterodactyl by plucking him out of the sky with his short arms. His tail was very useful against the smaller critters like the velociraptor
Just got an alert that the Eagles just extended Hurts for 177 Brazilian dollars. Might be my imagination or I’m suffering from Aaron Rodgers syndrome but it always seems that the winning teams get it it done meanwhile it seems the Jets drag their feet. I don’t mean getting AR done but Q. I know he has a year left on original contract but a deal this year would cost more next year
IMO the Jets have to come out of the 1st round with either an OT or C, be it at #13 or following a trade down. I love JSN's potential, and it would be great to add him, but not at the expense of shoring up our OL to protect AR.
I could possibly be convinced to take JSN over a DT, but not over an OT or C.
As far as the issue of "reaching "goes, with bad teams it usually doesn't work. With the better teams, when they have a glaring need and "reach" for a player, it quite often does work out, and if it works out, does it really matter that much if you overdrafted him a little. Now I'm not saying reach for a prospect that's a 2nd or 3rd round prospect in the 1st round, but when so many players are ranked so closely together, and there may only be a hundredth or a few hundredths of a point separating a player taken at #13 vs at #20, then imo it's a no-brainer, you take the player you like that fills the glaring need.
It won't matter how great a DT or even JSN wind up being if the Jets wind up having to start one of the backup C's they signed in FA and AR winds up going down with a serious injury or if they have the same problems with OTs this season as last, and are having to bring in players off the street to play LT.
I've come around to this line of thinking in the last day, so chances are I change my mind again, but I currently think that the Jets have two options: take an offensive weapon at 13, or trade 13 to GB straight up. That is, JSN or Bijan, or if a QB falls, or else use 42 & 43 to get trench players and keep all your 2024 draft capital. An exception might be Jalen Carter if he fell.
I'd love to see Wilson, Lazard, JSN and Hall on the field together. I'd also love to see Wilson, Lazard, Hall and Bijan...maybe with Hardman in the slot. Good lord! But if you're set on O-line, are the guys available at 42 all that different from the guy you can get at 13?
I'm no draft expert, and have paid less attention this year than in previous years, but imo the answer to your question is that yes, the difference is that big between an OL you could get at #13 or say #19 following a trade down, and the OL who will be available at #42 or #43. For one thing, at #13, you get to pick from a larger group, and you may even get to pick from every single OT in the draft. At #42 or #43, you're picking from what's left. Sometimes teams get lucky, or a player they love gets passed over, and they can get him in the second round, and he winds up being better than a player or players at his position taken in the 1st round.
If I'm an NFL GM, I want the choice every single time. I don't want to have to depend upon luck. As we all know, runs happen on positions all the time. By #42 or #43 it's possible that all the top OTs and the top 2 Cs could be gone. Would you really want to trust protecting AR up the gut with a lesser player who will also be a rookie at C? I wouldn't.
The key is drafting the right player, but luck also plays a part.
I agree with you in principle, but I'm not talking in abstract in this case. I believe Skoronski is on his own tier, but after him, I do not believe there is a big difference between tackles being mocked in the teens and tackles being mock in the second round. In this specific year players that might reasonably fall to 13 and be worthy of the pick feel limited to Skoronski, Carter, Levis, Smith-Njigba and Robinson.
If the Jets don't take one of those, I hope they trade the pick, and if they trade the pick, one option might be straight-up for Rodgers.
Good morning guys! I hope everyone had a great weekend. I love this kid. I have posted several articles in my groups page. I agree he’s the best WR in this class. Not the biggest, not the fastest but he’s simply the best. I still want the OT but if JD did pick him I would be more than fine with that. I saw that game against Utah. Amazing. You said it David. They knew the ball was going to him and they couldn’t do a thing to stop him. Don’t even think about playing zone against him. Especially with Rodgers chucking it. Looks like Ohio St. is turning into WR University! They will have Marvin Harrison Jr. Coming out next April. He’s a super talent and he’s 6’4” 205 and might be the best one yet. They have a couple of others in the pipeline too.
Marvin Harrison is just such a great example.
This kid sounds like Cooper Kupp to me. I'm still steadfastly in the OT at #13 camp.
WR University used to be Clemson. I saw Dabo speak at a Nike coaches clinic a few years back. The guy could literally speak for hours about WR release techniques.
BPA in round 1 is the way to go!
In all trade down scenarios you obtain the best value when teams are trading up for a QB. But if you look at this draft, there are no playmaking WR’s other than JSN. Confident that there will be trade value at 13 for Jaxon.( Patriots at 14 ? Crazy ) It’s about adding weapons, and controlling the cost of a dominating player for 5 years. Although the WR market has cooled somewhat, dominant WR’s are paid north of 18 million, and those prima donnas are not shy. Superbowl teams draft playmakers. With the Jets , there is an added incentive, you want to keep Rodgers for 2 + years, what better way than giving him great tools. Only five picks, and you draft a high floor non essential, very tough on other parts of the roster.. I like some of the OT’s in the second round, and a couple of third day Centers, but the rest of the draft gets difficult, and tough roster decisions will come quickly
Well said. I’m with you 100% on this.
I think you can call the 30 days before the draft “ the lying season”. Everything out there is viewed with a grain of salt.
For Jet fans, this year is an oddity because they are not drafting in the top six since they took that world famous mother and wife beater Darron Lee with the 20th pick.
Throw in the AR never ending drama and it makes this draft for the Jets sort of a mystery.
Yes, I know the pick should be a tackle but it’s possible the top three could be gone. Put in the fact, that the top rated tackle’s arms might be too short to play tackle, he might be an NFL guard adds more mystery to the Jets draft this year.
Following is a few bits and pieces from todays Peter King’s Monday article. Ironically he mentioned JSN in two different sections
T-minus 10 days to round one of the draft, and the NFL world is hopping.
Four big names in the first round I heard a lot about in recent days. I cast a wide net. I listen. I pry with people I’ve known for a while.
Jaxon Smith-Njigba had a left hamstring injury last year. He had a gigantic 2021 season at Ohio State, then played only 60 snaps in 2022, and I’m hearing some reticence about taking a guy 12th or 18th in the first round when, in a 4.5-month season, he managed to play the equivalent of one football game with a hamstring injury.
What I’m Hearing
I pass these mini-nuggets along as a fan service. They are among the things I’m hearing about the top of the 2023 draft.
Peter Skoronski’s an interesting case. The Northwestern tackle has the dreaded short-arm plague, and two teams in the top 10 see him now as a guard. So what? Guard Chris Lindstrom got drafted 14th by the Falcons in 2019, and he’s now a cornerstone player in Atlanta. Ditto Zack Martin (16th) in Dallas, and with a slightly smaller exclamation point, Quenton Nelson (sixth) in Indy. All got second contracts. If Skoronski’s a great guard, getting picked ninth or 12th or 15th is absolutely fine.
This is not an overriding negative on Jaxon Smith-Njigba, an excellent receiver prospect. But the Ohio State football season was five months long last year, including practice, and Smith-Njigba got a left hamstring injury early, and he played 60 snaps total in three games, and never got on the field in the last 10 weeks. He runs a 4.48 40-. I’m not the only one wondering: How is Jaxon Smith-Njigba the top-rated receiver on so many boards with 10 days to go?
David, maybe your sources can tell you how the AR drama is affecting the NFL schedule maker this year. There has to be some anxiety in that job this year.
I disagree with the idea of taking an OG in the top 20. I don't care how good they are. In fact, I doubt that I'd ever take an OG in the 1st round. Taking one that early, may make your OL better, but imo it's a sure-fire way to wreck your team's salary schedule and cause cap issues.
Just my opinion but that whole “arms are too short” stuff has been disproved time and time again. Northwestern recently produced another short arm OT ( R.Slater) who’s now a pro bowler for the Chargers. Watching film on Skoronski I’m not concerned one bit if we pick him.
I hate to disagree with you but the Tyrannosaurus Rex who had short arms usually got his ass beat by the brontosaurus and triceratops. He usually got the better of the pterodactyl by plucking him out of the sky with his short arms. His tail was very useful against the smaller critters like the velociraptor
Bobber, well, yeah. I gotta give ya that one!😂🦖
Sorry for the dumb remark but the total madness of draft month with its lies and redundancy tends to make sane people go over the top lol
Bobber😂 not a problem! Never took it in any negative way! We are all in this together! We may be idiots but we’re united idiots🤪
Just got an alert that the Eagles just extended Hurts for 177 Brazilian dollars. Might be my imagination or I’m suffering from Aaron Rodgers syndrome but it always seems that the winning teams get it it done meanwhile it seems the Jets drag their feet. I don’t mean getting AR done but Q. I know he has a year left on original contract but a deal this year would cost more next year
😂🤣
IMO the Jets have to come out of the 1st round with either an OT or C, be it at #13 or following a trade down. I love JSN's potential, and it would be great to add him, but not at the expense of shoring up our OL to protect AR.
I could possibly be convinced to take JSN over a DT, but not over an OT or C.
As far as the issue of "reaching "goes, with bad teams it usually doesn't work. With the better teams, when they have a glaring need and "reach" for a player, it quite often does work out, and if it works out, does it really matter that much if you overdrafted him a little. Now I'm not saying reach for a prospect that's a 2nd or 3rd round prospect in the 1st round, but when so many players are ranked so closely together, and there may only be a hundredth or a few hundredths of a point separating a player taken at #13 vs at #20, then imo it's a no-brainer, you take the player you like that fills the glaring need.
It won't matter how great a DT or even JSN wind up being if the Jets wind up having to start one of the backup C's they signed in FA and AR winds up going down with a serious injury or if they have the same problems with OTs this season as last, and are having to bring in players off the street to play LT.
I've come around to this line of thinking in the last day, so chances are I change my mind again, but I currently think that the Jets have two options: take an offensive weapon at 13, or trade 13 to GB straight up. That is, JSN or Bijan, or if a QB falls, or else use 42 & 43 to get trench players and keep all your 2024 draft capital. An exception might be Jalen Carter if he fell.
I'd love to see Wilson, Lazard, JSN and Hall on the field together. I'd also love to see Wilson, Lazard, Hall and Bijan...maybe with Hardman in the slot. Good lord! But if you're set on O-line, are the guys available at 42 all that different from the guy you can get at 13?
I'm no draft expert, and have paid less attention this year than in previous years, but imo the answer to your question is that yes, the difference is that big between an OL you could get at #13 or say #19 following a trade down, and the OL who will be available at #42 or #43. For one thing, at #13, you get to pick from a larger group, and you may even get to pick from every single OT in the draft. At #42 or #43, you're picking from what's left. Sometimes teams get lucky, or a player they love gets passed over, and they can get him in the second round, and he winds up being better than a player or players at his position taken in the 1st round.
If I'm an NFL GM, I want the choice every single time. I don't want to have to depend upon luck. As we all know, runs happen on positions all the time. By #42 or #43 it's possible that all the top OTs and the top 2 Cs could be gone. Would you really want to trust protecting AR up the gut with a lesser player who will also be a rookie at C? I wouldn't.
The key is drafting the right player, but luck also plays a part.
I agree with you in principle, but I'm not talking in abstract in this case. I believe Skoronski is on his own tier, but after him, I do not believe there is a big difference between tackles being mocked in the teens and tackles being mock in the second round. In this specific year players that might reasonably fall to 13 and be worthy of the pick feel limited to Skoronski, Carter, Levis, Smith-Njigba and Robinson.
If the Jets don't take one of those, I hope they trade the pick, and if they trade the pick, one option might be straight-up for Rodgers.