Couldn’t agree with you more, David. I’ve been saying Woody needed to sell for some time. I’ve been a die hard fan for 55 years and I didn’t even watch the game this past weekend. I’ve never felt this low about the Jets. Woody wanted Aaron and from his signing it’s been a steady decline. I don’t see the light at the end of the tunnel. I won’t abandon my Jets but it is really hard to be optimistic.
Really don't blame you Denise. It's that apathy based on the loss of hope. I wonder if I'd be watching this Thursday if I didn't have TJW and the UK Jets piece to write. I also think for whatever reason I'm struggling to connect with this team. Maybe it's the Aaron Rodgers affect, he's not overly likeable, or maybe it's just the constant losing finally taking a toll.
As always - thanks for the great commentary. I enjoy reading your articles. I’ll be watching tonight and still rooting our boys on. Let’s hope for a W!
His ownership is living proof that there is such a thing as “ Owner Malpractice “.
For those who aren’t aware of this, The Jets only charged PSLs for the lower tiers of the stadium. The upper deck had no PSL charge. Your option if you owned tickets for X amount of years and didn’t want to pay PSLs was go upstairs. I refused to pay $4,000 PSL each for my two seats, tried upstairs one year than Hasta LaVista.
An architectural fact about PSL $tadium. The 13th row in the upper deck is the same height as the last top row in old Giant stadium. PSL $tadium upper deck has 26 rows.
So you can actually wave to people in airplanes.
A Woody story, the year before they opened PSL $tadium.
My son was in line to use the porta potties.
He got into a conversation with a fan about the PSLs.
This fan told my son he was a NYC cop and that his family owned season tickets for years.
This fan told my son, he was outside working crowd control at an event in NYC.
By chance, Woody came out of a vehicle and momentarily had to wait.
The cop had the opportunity to talk to Woody. Told him his family had lower tier tickets for years but couldn’t afford the PSLs.
Woody showing what a wonderful empathetic person he was, said to the cop, “ We have a lot of good seats in the upper deck for you”
Woody showed his true loyalty, his only interest $$$$$$$$.
He is a disgrace as an owner.
He is too dumb to realize that if he leaves his football people alone, this team might actually get to a Super Bowl.
It’s a known fact that Tebow was brought in to sell Jets #15 Tebow jerseys.
Just imagine Woody, you leave this team alone and they win the Super Bowl.
Just imagine all the Jet Super Bowl memorabilia you could sell. Hats, T shirts etc.
You would look very dapper wearing a Jet Super Bowl 20xx Champion cap with your suit and tie, Dork.
Bobber, After having season tickets in section 114 row 23 for the entire 26 years at Giants Stadium 🏟️ there was no way I would even consider moving up to the Bob Uecker section. Makes me Crazy 🤪 to even think about it😂
Lower tier Giant Stadium had 40 rows except if there was a handicap section on the top of the section, which was the case of section 120
Being 3 seats from the aisle, me or my son could get out, go up 3 rows, bathroom right in front of us on concourse. We always went bathroom during timeouts . No waiting, up, pee, down before the timeout was over
Seats were under cover
Goalposts to my left so they didn’t obstruct my view.
If you were at the Monday night miracle, game winning fg was in my end zone
But the best part of my seats, was, it was always the same fans. They were like family
I saw a lot of small Jet fans grow up and become successful adults.
The last year in Giant stadium, I took everyone’s picture and I put them in huge collage frame that is hanging in my Jet cave.
PSLs aside, Woody destroyed 25 year old friendships.
Very well said David ! It just is very sad for us fans. I mean does the guy even know that he is a owner of a very bad franchise ? Does he even sit there and wonder why they are so bad or does he ask anyone with football knowledge ? Thanks for putting his face in our faces David threw up in my mouth LOL. This part: Fans go to games for several different reasons, for some it’s an escape, for some it’s a bond with family and for some it’s the memory of times shared with people who are no longer here. Thats what hurts droppng my seats.
This is what I always ask myself, after filtering through so many QBs, so many GMs, so many HC's, so many players...has he never stopped and thought, wait maybe I'm the problem. It can't be nice walking into those owners meetings with that playoff drought over your head. Will he ever truly let go? I just can't see it.
Steve, getting to know you here and in the OTJG’s group I know you’re a very bright guy. And being a season ticket holder for 40+ seasons confirms you’re an unquestionably great Jets fan. But for the life of me I just can’t understand how you or and fan with an IQ over room temperature would think laying out many thousands of dollars simply for the ability to purchase seasons tickets that go up significantly from season to season is a good idea?🤔
You are on target, David. Only way to force him to sell is stop buying tickets. That begins next year for me.
I stop watching live too from this day forward. If they win, I will watch the replay - I am 67 and this is just too painful. That NE game broke my heart.
Ha very true. If we lose on TNF I'm sure the NFL are going to Flex that SNF game against the Colts out. No way will they want the 2-7 Jets stinking up the place
He has accomplished essentially nothing on his own. His entire life has been by appointment. He never learned or experienced building or leading a group of people let alone a business. As a result he is like Verushka Salt from Willy Wonka.
He has no informed judgement, only petulant temper tantrums.
There isn't much I can add to what has already been said in the comments. Wood Head has to be one of the most clueless sports owners in history. It just boggles the mind.
I've come to insert some random thoughts into the conversation!
Consider what happened to the Oakland A's. Their first owner (Charles Finley) was a notorious cheapskate who, after their initial early 70s success, tried to sell and move the team's multiple times before being forced to sell the team when the city of Oakland refused to release the A's from their lease at The Coliseum. The next ownership group, once again after initial success spending money on a competitive product, started to explore options for selling the team. Bud Selig, actually, interrupted multiple potential acquisitions of the A's for dubious reasons. Current Warriors owner Joe Lacob (by all accounts an excellent owner, but an owner who moved the Warriors out of Oakland across the Bay to San Francisco) had his potential acquisition vetoed by Selig in favor of getting the team sold to an ownership group featuring a fraternity brother of his. This group featured their current owner (John Fisher), a notorious cheapskate, tried to hold the city hostage so that they'd build him a new stadium. He tried to relocate the team to San Jose. He get multiple publicly-funded stadiums built. He eventually tried strong-arming the city government, threatening to leave unless they publicly-funded a new stadium. He succeeded in moving the team from Oakland to Las Vegas. They'll play the next two years in Sacramento, in a Triple-A baseball stadium. They'll, then, move into a partially publicly-funded (capped at $380 million in public funds) stadium in Vegas across from a giant Bally's casino that will, apparently, add to the funding. Interestingly, John Fisher is also (surprise, surprise) an inheritor of obscene wealth (just like Woody and Chris). His parents are the founders of Gap. He went to work at a real estate company following graduation from college and, subsequently, ran the company into the ground. The family, then, appointed him president of their investment management company.
Clearly, there are a lot of fan bases in the United States who root for sports teams who are owned by wealthy scions who perpetually fail up. What's different about the Jets is that Woody hasn't tried moving the team....yet. Lucky for him, he was able to raise enough money from other people to build a $1.6 million stadium ($2.24 in 2023 bucks). Anywho....the point is, there are other fan bases that know the pain of poor ownership. Just ask the Seattle fans about the Sonics...
We definitely need a motivator, we also need an innovator. Rex was great back in the day but a lot has changed over the last 8 years and outside of 2009 and 2010 he was actually quite poor the other 6 years he was the coach. It's going to be a tough balance to strike with the next HC.
Rex talked a big game, backed it up for his first two years. That team was heavy with Mangini’s players, once they were gone and Rex got into the war room, disaster.
Wasted picks on Coples and the Louisville slugger. It started going downhill quick, then to add to the disaster Tannenbaum was replaced by Idzik.
Dumb ass Woody loved Rex because his braggadocio got the Jets the back page of the papers. Woody will do anything for exposure but the only problem was that Rex’s mouth made the Jets one of the most hated teams in football then. Has to be an NFL record being the most hated team without winning squat.
John B over at GGN had a really good podcast on Rex (yesterday I think). He basically made the same argument that Rex took over a team packed with veteran leadership that didn't require a ton of supervision, but once they started retiring and leaving he really couldn't bring new people through. Lot of bad draft picks, lot of bad signings, lot of bad performances. We remember the positives because it's the only thing we've had in a long time, but I wouldn't have taken Rex back in 2016 when he left the Bills, I certainly wouldn't take him back in 2025. League is a different beast these days.
Couldn’t agree with you more, David. I’ve been saying Woody needed to sell for some time. I’ve been a die hard fan for 55 years and I didn’t even watch the game this past weekend. I’ve never felt this low about the Jets. Woody wanted Aaron and from his signing it’s been a steady decline. I don’t see the light at the end of the tunnel. I won’t abandon my Jets but it is really hard to be optimistic.
Really don't blame you Denise. It's that apathy based on the loss of hope. I wonder if I'd be watching this Thursday if I didn't have TJW and the UK Jets piece to write. I also think for whatever reason I'm struggling to connect with this team. Maybe it's the Aaron Rodgers affect, he's not overly likeable, or maybe it's just the constant losing finally taking a toll.
As always - thanks for the great commentary. I enjoy reading your articles. I’ll be watching tonight and still rooting our boys on. Let’s hope for a W!
David, right on about Woody.
His ownership is living proof that there is such a thing as “ Owner Malpractice “.
For those who aren’t aware of this, The Jets only charged PSLs for the lower tiers of the stadium. The upper deck had no PSL charge. Your option if you owned tickets for X amount of years and didn’t want to pay PSLs was go upstairs. I refused to pay $4,000 PSL each for my two seats, tried upstairs one year than Hasta LaVista.
An architectural fact about PSL $tadium. The 13th row in the upper deck is the same height as the last top row in old Giant stadium. PSL $tadium upper deck has 26 rows.
So you can actually wave to people in airplanes.
A Woody story, the year before they opened PSL $tadium.
My son was in line to use the porta potties.
He got into a conversation with a fan about the PSLs.
This fan told my son he was a NYC cop and that his family owned season tickets for years.
This fan told my son, he was outside working crowd control at an event in NYC.
By chance, Woody came out of a vehicle and momentarily had to wait.
The cop had the opportunity to talk to Woody. Told him his family had lower tier tickets for years but couldn’t afford the PSLs.
Woody showing what a wonderful empathetic person he was, said to the cop, “ We have a lot of good seats in the upper deck for you”
Woody showed his true loyalty, his only interest $$$$$$$$.
He is a disgrace as an owner.
He is too dumb to realize that if he leaves his football people alone, this team might actually get to a Super Bowl.
It’s a known fact that Tebow was brought in to sell Jets #15 Tebow jerseys.
Just imagine Woody, you leave this team alone and they win the Super Bowl.
Just imagine all the Jet Super Bowl memorabilia you could sell. Hats, T shirts etc.
You would look very dapper wearing a Jet Super Bowl 20xx Champion cap with your suit and tie, Dork.
Bobber, After having season tickets in section 114 row 23 for the entire 26 years at Giants Stadium 🏟️ there was no way I would even consider moving up to the Bob Uecker section. Makes me Crazy 🤪 to even think about it😂
I tried it, it wasn’t the same.
My seats in Giant Stadium
Section 120
End zone. Row 31, seats 3 + 4
Lower tier Giant Stadium had 40 rows except if there was a handicap section on the top of the section, which was the case of section 120
Being 3 seats from the aisle, me or my son could get out, go up 3 rows, bathroom right in front of us on concourse. We always went bathroom during timeouts . No waiting, up, pee, down before the timeout was over
Seats were under cover
Goalposts to my left so they didn’t obstruct my view.
If you were at the Monday night miracle, game winning fg was in my end zone
But the best part of my seats, was, it was always the same fans. They were like family
I saw a lot of small Jet fans grow up and become successful adults.
The last year in Giant stadium, I took everyone’s picture and I put them in huge collage frame that is hanging in my Jet cave.
PSLs aside, Woody destroyed 25 year old friendships.
All I can say is "Thank you David". Keep up the great work.
Appreciate you Jason
Very well said David ! It just is very sad for us fans. I mean does the guy even know that he is a owner of a very bad franchise ? Does he even sit there and wonder why they are so bad or does he ask anyone with football knowledge ? Thanks for putting his face in our faces David threw up in my mouth LOL. This part: Fans go to games for several different reasons, for some it’s an escape, for some it’s a bond with family and for some it’s the memory of times shared with people who are no longer here. Thats what hurts droppng my seats.
This is what I always ask myself, after filtering through so many QBs, so many GMs, so many HC's, so many players...has he never stopped and thought, wait maybe I'm the problem. It can't be nice walking into those owners meetings with that playoff drought over your head. Will he ever truly let go? I just can't see it.
Steve, getting to know you here and in the OTJG’s group I know you’re a very bright guy. And being a season ticket holder for 40+ seasons confirms you’re an unquestionably great Jets fan. But for the life of me I just can’t understand how you or and fan with an IQ over room temperature would think laying out many thousands of dollars simply for the ability to purchase seasons tickets that go up significantly from season to season is a good idea?🤔
You are on target, David. Only way to force him to sell is stop buying tickets. That begins next year for me.
I stop watching live too from this day forward. If they win, I will watch the replay - I am 67 and this is just too painful. That NE game broke my heart.
That is whati am doing - 40 years plus and not reneweing
At the end of the day Woody only has himself to blame. But unfortunately with the boom the NFL is experiencing, he's only getting richer.
Maybe people don't have any money for it because of the increase in ticket prices:)
I think flying a plane over the stadium with signage is the best idea :)
I haven't actually seen any plans for that tomorrow, which is a little shocking IMO
I shud have placed that reply here:)
I am not going to watch the game and I bet in typical Jets fashion they will probably win.
For the first time in a while I'm contemplating watching it as live on Friday morning instead of staying up for it on Thursday night.
Go to bed David, even a wins means nothing. If they win just write “ Jets beat Texans big F**king Deal” “ Too little too late “
Ha very true. If we lose on TNF I'm sure the NFL are going to Flex that SNF game against the Colts out. No way will they want the 2-7 Jets stinking up the place
Let’s be totally honest about WJ.
He has accomplished essentially nothing on his own. His entire life has been by appointment. He never learned or experienced building or leading a group of people let alone a business. As a result he is like Verushka Salt from Willy Wonka.
He has no informed judgement, only petulant temper tantrums.
A fish rots from the head down
There isn't much I can add to what has already been said in the comments. Wood Head has to be one of the most clueless sports owners in history. It just boggles the mind.
Mornin' ya'll,
I've come to insert some random thoughts into the conversation!
Consider what happened to the Oakland A's. Their first owner (Charles Finley) was a notorious cheapskate who, after their initial early 70s success, tried to sell and move the team's multiple times before being forced to sell the team when the city of Oakland refused to release the A's from their lease at The Coliseum. The next ownership group, once again after initial success spending money on a competitive product, started to explore options for selling the team. Bud Selig, actually, interrupted multiple potential acquisitions of the A's for dubious reasons. Current Warriors owner Joe Lacob (by all accounts an excellent owner, but an owner who moved the Warriors out of Oakland across the Bay to San Francisco) had his potential acquisition vetoed by Selig in favor of getting the team sold to an ownership group featuring a fraternity brother of his. This group featured their current owner (John Fisher), a notorious cheapskate, tried to hold the city hostage so that they'd build him a new stadium. He tried to relocate the team to San Jose. He get multiple publicly-funded stadiums built. He eventually tried strong-arming the city government, threatening to leave unless they publicly-funded a new stadium. He succeeded in moving the team from Oakland to Las Vegas. They'll play the next two years in Sacramento, in a Triple-A baseball stadium. They'll, then, move into a partially publicly-funded (capped at $380 million in public funds) stadium in Vegas across from a giant Bally's casino that will, apparently, add to the funding. Interestingly, John Fisher is also (surprise, surprise) an inheritor of obscene wealth (just like Woody and Chris). His parents are the founders of Gap. He went to work at a real estate company following graduation from college and, subsequently, ran the company into the ground. The family, then, appointed him president of their investment management company.
Clearly, there are a lot of fan bases in the United States who root for sports teams who are owned by wealthy scions who perpetually fail up. What's different about the Jets is that Woody hasn't tried moving the team....yet. Lucky for him, he was able to raise enough money from other people to build a $1.6 million stadium ($2.24 in 2023 bucks). Anywho....the point is, there are other fan bases that know the pain of poor ownership. Just ask the Seattle fans about the Sonics...
Rex could galvanize a group of players and make them a team. I'm not saying it should be Rex, but we need the Rex effect!
We definitely need a motivator, we also need an innovator. Rex was great back in the day but a lot has changed over the last 8 years and outside of 2009 and 2010 he was actually quite poor the other 6 years he was the coach. It's going to be a tough balance to strike with the next HC.
Rex talked a big game, backed it up for his first two years. That team was heavy with Mangini’s players, once they were gone and Rex got into the war room, disaster.
Wasted picks on Coples and the Louisville slugger. It started going downhill quick, then to add to the disaster Tannenbaum was replaced by Idzik.
Dumb ass Woody loved Rex because his braggadocio got the Jets the back page of the papers. Woody will do anything for exposure but the only problem was that Rex’s mouth made the Jets one of the most hated teams in football then. Has to be an NFL record being the most hated team without winning squat.
John B over at GGN had a really good podcast on Rex (yesterday I think). He basically made the same argument that Rex took over a team packed with veteran leadership that didn't require a ton of supervision, but once they started retiring and leaving he really couldn't bring new people through. Lot of bad draft picks, lot of bad signings, lot of bad performances. We remember the positives because it's the only thing we've had in a long time, but I wouldn't have taken Rex back in 2016 when he left the Bills, I certainly wouldn't take him back in 2025. League is a different beast these days.