It also wasn't just the lead that limited targets. Conditions were sloppy - wet ball. And ZW is gradually getting back in the flow. That adds up to less throws.
I do think MLF should scheme up touches, mix him into the slot more often, and take advantage of his elusive route running.
The kid definitely seems to have a legitimate grip, but the way he's voicing his frustration is the real issue. As you say, MLF could design more plays to get him the ball in space. Beyond Moore, the team needs to maximize ALL of its weapons to be a real contender. Hopefully Saleh, MLF, and Moore can get this sorted out behind closed doors.
Legitimate grip? The Jets won 3 straight. Are you suggesting they should change their strategy to keep Moore happy at the risk of losing the game?
I think Moore is an exciting player and a great weapon but he has a self centered attitude that is not what a winning team wants to see. Chalk it up to him being 22 and usually the best player on the team. Hopefully he'll apologize and the Jets get him involved a bit more early to easy his pain.
Yes, it's entirely legitimate for a player whose usage has changed to be unhappy about that. I'm suggesting the Jets can do a better job of game planning to get the ball into the hands of that exciting player. As I said in my previous post, the Jets will need ALL of their weapons active in the game to be contenders.
Is it during a three game winning streak, the only three games your starting QB played this year? You have to go public and demand a trade?
I want WRs who want the ball but you have to have more patience after 6 games. The team already won 4 games this year which was last year's total. Give me a break. It's not legit to publicly demand a trade for a player early in his second year. I have no issue with him making his case quietly but winning should be the goal, not personal stats.
Selfish, that’s it…as Alex Ferguson once said (and I’m paraphrasing) once a player thinks he’s bigger than the team, get rid…for a player constantly telling us how god has a plan for him it’s amazing how quickly he decided he didn’t like the plan when the snaps/targets drop off…here’s hoping Denzel makes the most of his opportunity…
The frustration is understandable, the manifestation of it is unacceptable. Moore's friend AJ Brown tweeting #freeElijah is an embarrassment. WR diva stereotype exhibit A.
I too hope that Saleh, LaFleur and Moore can sort this out, but I fear that trust and respect from teammates is another matter. We own his rights, if he can't get his act together sit him....for years.
I'm intrigued by Mims in the lineup. He has the body for contested catches, more so than Moore
Mims vs the top pass defense in the NFL is a tough draw for his 1st game back, but a few deep targets might stretch safeties deeper, stressing linebackers against the run and short middle of the field passes
Using Moore for go routes seem like a waste. I guess it's a field stretcher,
My first instinct is to be on Moore's side; he does not seem to get enough targets and for all this is a team sport and winning trumps everything, NFL careers are short and the brother won't be getting paid if the stats aren't hefty. That said, I haven't reviewed film to see whether his routes are being run lazily, like you suggested might be the case.
Gardner's (sub)tweet is interesting, but without being there it's hard to say how fair it is for him to say that. Beyond scrimmages, how much time would these position groups be spending with each other?
Do you have stats for where Moore is lining up on average? It seems to me like he is rarely in the slot and that's exactly where he should be with his body type, but I'm not counting so I might be wrong.
I didn't think it would be this close between Liz Truss and him leaving their roles, that's for sure...
Just to add to this, for all I sympathise with Moore, he would have had to have been a proper **** about it to have got sent home. It feels way too early in the season to be complaining about it. If it was week 12, or if the Jets were 1-5 then that’s a different story.
Thanks for writing another "spot on" article and while on vacation! You are Moore of a team player than Elijah!
We have another thoroughbred horse at the gate waiting to bust out. I would not be surprised if Mims has a big game. The Broncos will cover CD and GW with their best DBs. Mimsy might be open a few times.
Opens the door for Denzel, showcased before the trading deadline. Actually Mims could be a better fit as an outside WR, better blocker, bigger threat on deep routes. Jets handled this EM correctly.
It also wasn't just the lead that limited targets. Conditions were sloppy - wet ball. And ZW is gradually getting back in the flow. That adds up to less throws.
I do think MLF should scheme up touches, mix him into the slot more often, and take advantage of his elusive route running.
The kid definitely seems to have a legitimate grip, but the way he's voicing his frustration is the real issue. As you say, MLF could design more plays to get him the ball in space. Beyond Moore, the team needs to maximize ALL of its weapons to be a real contender. Hopefully Saleh, MLF, and Moore can get this sorted out behind closed doors.
Legitimate grip? The Jets won 3 straight. Are you suggesting they should change their strategy to keep Moore happy at the risk of losing the game?
I think Moore is an exciting player and a great weapon but he has a self centered attitude that is not what a winning team wants to see. Chalk it up to him being 22 and usually the best player on the team. Hopefully he'll apologize and the Jets get him involved a bit more early to easy his pain.
Yes, it's entirely legitimate for a player whose usage has changed to be unhappy about that. I'm suggesting the Jets can do a better job of game planning to get the ball into the hands of that exciting player. As I said in my previous post, the Jets will need ALL of their weapons active in the game to be contenders.
Is it during a three game winning streak, the only three games your starting QB played this year? You have to go public and demand a trade?
I want WRs who want the ball but you have to have more patience after 6 games. The team already won 4 games this year which was last year's total. Give me a break. It's not legit to publicly demand a trade for a player early in his second year. I have no issue with him making his case quietly but winning should be the goal, not personal stats.
Got it, so you agree with my initial statement and have nothing to actually contribute beyond arguing exactly what I said. You have a great day.
Wow, I'm beginning to want less of Moore!
Selfish, that’s it…as Alex Ferguson once said (and I’m paraphrasing) once a player thinks he’s bigger than the team, get rid…for a player constantly telling us how god has a plan for him it’s amazing how quickly he decided he didn’t like the plan when the snaps/targets drop off…here’s hoping Denzel makes the most of his opportunity…
Well said - thought you might support him especially with all that French wine in you lol
Very well said David.
The frustration is understandable, the manifestation of it is unacceptable. Moore's friend AJ Brown tweeting #freeElijah is an embarrassment. WR diva stereotype exhibit A.
I too hope that Saleh, LaFleur and Moore can sort this out, but I fear that trust and respect from teammates is another matter. We own his rights, if he can't get his act together sit him....for years.
I hope Mims kicks ass
I'm intrigued by Mims in the lineup. He has the body for contested catches, more so than Moore
Mims vs the top pass defense in the NFL is a tough draw for his 1st game back, but a few deep targets might stretch safeties deeper, stressing linebackers against the run and short middle of the field passes
Using Moore for go routes seem like a waste. I guess it's a field stretcher,
My first instinct is to be on Moore's side; he does not seem to get enough targets and for all this is a team sport and winning trumps everything, NFL careers are short and the brother won't be getting paid if the stats aren't hefty. That said, I haven't reviewed film to see whether his routes are being run lazily, like you suggested might be the case.
Gardner's (sub)tweet is interesting, but without being there it's hard to say how fair it is for him to say that. Beyond scrimmages, how much time would these position groups be spending with each other?
Do you have stats for where Moore is lining up on average? It seems to me like he is rarely in the slot and that's exactly where he should be with his body type, but I'm not counting so I might be wrong.
I didn't think it would be this close between Liz Truss and him leaving their roles, that's for sure...
Just to add to this, for all I sympathise with Moore, he would have had to have been a proper **** about it to have got sent home. It feels way too early in the season to be complaining about it. If it was week 12, or if the Jets were 1-5 then that’s a different story.
Thanks for writing another "spot on" article and while on vacation! You are Moore of a team player than Elijah!
We have another thoroughbred horse at the gate waiting to bust out. I would not be surprised if Mims has a big game. The Broncos will cover CD and GW with their best DBs. Mimsy might be open a few times.
Opens the door for Denzel, showcased before the trading deadline. Actually Mims could be a better fit as an outside WR, better blocker, bigger threat on deep routes. Jets handled this EM correctly.
Great article by David and great comments. I think he is being misused, but totally went about it the wrong way. I'm very excited for Mims.