Great synopsis of this weeks debacle. For me there were 3 or 4 glaring things that led to this loss. Three unsportsmanlike penalties are inexcusable! Two them (Joyner’s shot to Higgins head and JFM’s ridiculous shove on Burrow well after the ball was gone we’re clear examples of poor decision making and a lack of discipline. And with the ball inside the Cincy 10 and the opportunity for a late score what the heck was Cory Davis thinking? The next question is how our defenders seem to not understand their assignments! It seems like Joyner is constantly out of position. Probably why he is most often seen trotting into the picture as the receiver has either scored or made a critical reception. It does seem that nearly every miscommunication involves Joyner? And lastly, the curios game plan that appeared to focus on forcing the ball to Elijah Moore. Apparently Cincinnati picked up on that early as they had a lot better plan on how to stop him than we had as to how to best utilize him. As you mentioned, Moore is a lot more effective being utilized in the short to intermediate areas of the field. At 5’9 180 he’s tough to find deep along the boundaries. Crossing routes,digs, slants, quick outs, screens, that’s his game. If you run him that way you can set him up to run double moves to get deep!
Great job David. I think your analysis and perspective are spot on, you mentioned most of the things that trouble me.
My priorities:
Starting D Line should be: JJohnson, JFM, QW, Clemmons. JFM's stats bear out he gets more pressure from the inside. JJ plays the run better than any other DE and gets pressure on pass plays. Clemmons is flat out better than Lawson. Rotate as necessary, but let these guys play together for the majority.
Replace Joyner. Even if the options are not better, at least they will be young w/ a higher ceiling.
I watched the 49ers game. Even w/ all the talent they have lost that defense is still fast, aggressive and dominating. It's the system Saleh came from. Ullrich needs to give up the reins to Saleh. It's not unheard of to have a HC also take on coordinator duties (see LaFleur in GB).
OLine; we must put help at LT on most plays, esp w/ Zach returning. Conklin is the better blocker so he's the logical choice. LaFleur is not running the West Coast offense. I understand the line and QB limitations, but the WC is a zone run, waggle heavy, misdirection, short passing based system. The use of E Moore yesterday was incomprehensible; he's small and Flacco cannot throw outside the hashes. Infuriating.
I am still a huge supporter of both HC and GM, but patience is thinning, not on a game to game level though. We have to remember, we are at least a year away, stay the course. Constant change in HC and GM achieve nothing. And yes, my family owned season tix at Shea Stadium, so I'm not a fresh faced newbie to the situation.
It’s going to take more than a return of Zach Wilson to turn this teams fortunes around.
They might be 1-2 but in reality they should be 0-3 and would have been short of a minor miracle.
Asked last night, when is it time to start questioning the coaching? The fact that players and coaches are clashing on the sidelines is not a sign that all is well behind the scenes and could be the first outward sign that, to quote a ⚽️ term, the dressing room is being lost.
Still early in the season but things currently don’t look any better than any of the most recent seasons and there are very little signs for optimism.
One of my biggest issues with the coaching staff is on the defensive side of the ball and a lack of any real game plan and adjustment. We tend to stick to our base formations and philosophies even if it's not the way to beat the team in front of us, teams that fail to adapt will get exposed and Jeff Ulbrich seems extremely stubborn to me.
On the offensive side of the ball we are getting players open, we just don't have the QB finding them, so I'm less worried.
Ive said this over and over again Salah and especially Douglas get a ton of credit for doing absolutley nothing. Imo Douglas should have been fired last year. It doesnt take 4 years to vaild a offensive line let alone a somehwat competetive team. The must frustarting part of yesterday was they went backwards. There is no visable sign of this team "jelling" or moving in a direction that suggests this 53rd "rebuild" in my lifetime is moving in the right direction. What there are only 50-60k fans at the stdium yesterday woth 10k being bengals fans - top 5 pick here we come. Good news my NY Rangers start tonight and the Mets have won 97 games
I agree with everything you’ve said including not watching anymore football afterwards. Funny how we can see these things but the coaches don’t seem to . I’m tired of watching passés thrown before the 1st down marker especially before the line of scrimmage with no chance of getting any yardage.. Better to throw it away and save yardage. They need a big body to run up the middle for short yardage. This isnt college football .play calling is suspect and Flacco can’t seem to find or hit an open receiver outside the pocket when he isn’t being pressured at the time and if he’d just stop and plant he’d probably hit his target. I don’t know what the h3ck is with the defense . Thought we had a good defensive line for sacking th3 about. Where are the lin3 backers? D backfield in disarray.
I’m praying for Wilson wh3n h3 returns to this offensive line .he’s going to get hurt . Coach and GM did a bad job of beefing up offensive line. Nuff said .
Great synopsis of this weeks debacle. For me there were 3 or 4 glaring things that led to this loss. Three unsportsmanlike penalties are inexcusable! Two them (Joyner’s shot to Higgins head and JFM’s ridiculous shove on Burrow well after the ball was gone we’re clear examples of poor decision making and a lack of discipline. And with the ball inside the Cincy 10 and the opportunity for a late score what the heck was Cory Davis thinking? The next question is how our defenders seem to not understand their assignments! It seems like Joyner is constantly out of position. Probably why he is most often seen trotting into the picture as the receiver has either scored or made a critical reception. It does seem that nearly every miscommunication involves Joyner? And lastly, the curios game plan that appeared to focus on forcing the ball to Elijah Moore. Apparently Cincinnati picked up on that early as they had a lot better plan on how to stop him than we had as to how to best utilize him. As you mentioned, Moore is a lot more effective being utilized in the short to intermediate areas of the field. At 5’9 180 he’s tough to find deep along the boundaries. Crossing routes,digs, slants, quick outs, screens, that’s his game. If you run him that way you can set him up to run double moves to get deep!
well said Ron
Great job David. I think your analysis and perspective are spot on, you mentioned most of the things that trouble me.
My priorities:
Starting D Line should be: JJohnson, JFM, QW, Clemmons. JFM's stats bear out he gets more pressure from the inside. JJ plays the run better than any other DE and gets pressure on pass plays. Clemmons is flat out better than Lawson. Rotate as necessary, but let these guys play together for the majority.
Replace Joyner. Even if the options are not better, at least they will be young w/ a higher ceiling.
I watched the 49ers game. Even w/ all the talent they have lost that defense is still fast, aggressive and dominating. It's the system Saleh came from. Ullrich needs to give up the reins to Saleh. It's not unheard of to have a HC also take on coordinator duties (see LaFleur in GB).
OLine; we must put help at LT on most plays, esp w/ Zach returning. Conklin is the better blocker so he's the logical choice. LaFleur is not running the West Coast offense. I understand the line and QB limitations, but the WC is a zone run, waggle heavy, misdirection, short passing based system. The use of E Moore yesterday was incomprehensible; he's small and Flacco cannot throw outside the hashes. Infuriating.
I am still a huge supporter of both HC and GM, but patience is thinning, not on a game to game level though. We have to remember, we are at least a year away, stay the course. Constant change in HC and GM achieve nothing. And yes, my family owned season tix at Shea Stadium, so I'm not a fresh faced newbie to the situation.
It’s going to take more than a return of Zach Wilson to turn this teams fortunes around.
They might be 1-2 but in reality they should be 0-3 and would have been short of a minor miracle.
Asked last night, when is it time to start questioning the coaching? The fact that players and coaches are clashing on the sidelines is not a sign that all is well behind the scenes and could be the first outward sign that, to quote a ⚽️ term, the dressing room is being lost.
Still early in the season but things currently don’t look any better than any of the most recent seasons and there are very little signs for optimism.
One of my biggest issues with the coaching staff is on the defensive side of the ball and a lack of any real game plan and adjustment. We tend to stick to our base formations and philosophies even if it's not the way to beat the team in front of us, teams that fail to adapt will get exposed and Jeff Ulbrich seems extremely stubborn to me.
On the offensive side of the ball we are getting players open, we just don't have the QB finding them, so I'm less worried.
Ive said this over and over again Salah and especially Douglas get a ton of credit for doing absolutley nothing. Imo Douglas should have been fired last year. It doesnt take 4 years to vaild a offensive line let alone a somehwat competetive team. The must frustarting part of yesterday was they went backwards. There is no visable sign of this team "jelling" or moving in a direction that suggests this 53rd "rebuild" in my lifetime is moving in the right direction. What there are only 50-60k fans at the stdium yesterday woth 10k being bengals fans - top 5 pick here we come. Good news my NY Rangers start tonight and the Mets have won 97 games
I agree with everything you’ve said including not watching anymore football afterwards. Funny how we can see these things but the coaches don’t seem to . I’m tired of watching passés thrown before the 1st down marker especially before the line of scrimmage with no chance of getting any yardage.. Better to throw it away and save yardage. They need a big body to run up the middle for short yardage. This isnt college football .play calling is suspect and Flacco can’t seem to find or hit an open receiver outside the pocket when he isn’t being pressured at the time and if he’d just stop and plant he’d probably hit his target. I don’t know what the h3ck is with the defense . Thought we had a good defensive line for sacking th3 about. Where are the lin3 backers? D backfield in disarray.
I’m praying for Wilson wh3n h3 returns to this offensive line .he’s going to get hurt . Coach and GM did a bad job of beefing up offensive line. Nuff said .