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Still numb from Monday after catching up. It’s the biggest kick in the nuts, and yet we won with so much grit and fight. What we all want from our team. I hope Zach kills it, silences every critic he has. But the likelihood is, we miss out and it’s another busted flush. Would like to see Hackett give him more freedom, but the offensive line may be his biggest Achilles heel going off some of the highlights.

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I am absolutely terrified of Sunday's game, the only defensive pressure system on par with the Jets is Dallas...and our o-line have a lot of questions. I want Zach to succeed but based on all we've seen it's a long shot. What a story it would be though? What a movie it would make.

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Probably the key to this game is turnovers. Allen’s charity last week kept the game close. Last season, Allen turnovers, 19, Prescotts 15. If the Jets can get 3-4 turnovers, hopefully some in Dallas’s territory then maybe the Jets can do the least expected, win.

The most important question is, When do the Jets take the training wheels off. Zach is a third year pro, not a rookie draft pick. The next 5 opponents Dallas, Pats, Chiefs, Broncos and Eagles, all good to very good defensive teams.

If the Jets really think they can successfully run into 9 man fronts, they are not only kidding the fans but themselves.

I’d rather see the Jets be 1-5 by trying to be somewhat aggressive than 1-5 by doing the impossible run into 9 man fronts.

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hey David!

Let Zach be this year's Jeff Hostetler

that'd be nice...

And if Saleh leaves Brown in at LT, with no help against the pass rush, then all i can do is rustle up the voodoo dolls I have, put a cowboys jersey on 'em, and start poking the Eff outta dem...

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I agree with you about being terrified about Sunday, it's going to be a real test. Dallas' defense is the best the Jets will face this year and is closest to the Jets defense around the NFL right now. The Jets offense practicing against their own defense will give them an idea of what Dallas is going to throw at them and should be an advantage. I'm sure Paul Hackett is still a little in shock after his entire plan, which was designed specifically with AR in mind, has to be tailored to the level that Zack Wilson is at now. He cannot retreat back into a shell offensively, as the Jets will be seeing a LOT of 9 man fronts daring the Jets to pass the ball. We saw that Monday night. He has to let the reins loose and see where it goes. He also has to tell Zack to take the running opportunities when they are there and not hesitate. He has shown that he has the running ability. The next 5 games will show if the Jets will, or will not, have a solid shot at the playoffs this year. Zack Wilson has the physical tools and has shown flashes of what he is capable of, though the instances are few and far in between. His issue is mental, not physical. He just may not have the psyche for a successful NFL quarterback. We will know soon enough. Dallas is one story, but for me the real test for Wilson and the Jets is New England, who have had the hex on them since Mo Lewis set the stage for the rise of Brady. This is where the mental game really comes to the fore, with Beli-dick and his Sith-like ability to use the Force on the Jets, lol. It may be the most important game for the Jets this season and could set the tone. I'm a realist and a pragmatist, which I have honed since becoming a Titan/Jet fan in 1960. Losing AR is a killer blow, that's a fact. Zack is front and center and HAS to dig out the best that he can be. The o-line better get it's shit together because there has to be even a token run game to keep defenses honest and protect Zack. That is a must. If the Jets end up 1-5 or 2-4, they have to make the sensible decision on the rest of the season, because I doubt that bringing in Cousins or Stafford, IF they are available, will turn the team around quickly. The rest of dramatis personae, Foles, Minshew, Brissett and any of the rest of the retreads, will not be up to the task of taking the Jets to the Promised Land because they will face the same problems as Zack. Without answers to those problems, it's illogical to think that the season will be a successful one. Throwing assets and $$$$$ against the wall hoping for a miracle is the wrong way to think. I'm not worried at all about then defense, they will do their part, but the offense has to get something going, because rotations only work to a certain point for the defense. Then longer the defense has to be on the field will wear it down in every game. They definitely have to get turnovers, it will be a key for them. What's going to happen is going to happen. We have to sit and sweat it out. I really hope that Zack can get his head on straight and pull this off, both to salvage the season and his career, because if he tanks he will be on the last train to Clarksville posthaste.

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Very well said. He can't keep throwing the type of interception he did against Buffalo. And yes, the training wheels have to come off if they plan on making any type of statement this year. I just hope he has learned a bit better on how to scan the field and process his progressions quickly and smartly.

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hey Thomas!!!

Solution - get Brown off the OL/LT spot

then:

<Becton><Tomlinson><Tippmann (or McG)><McG (or Tippmann)><AVT>

and run alot of 12, 13, 22 & 23 packages, leaving one TE to assist the LT by chipping the DE, and ditto as needed on the other side.

Also scheme for roll-outs to the side away from where the TE is chipping, usually the right as Zach is right handed. It stands to reason, opposing OC's will know the LT position is the weakest link (with Brown there) ergo will dedicate their best pass-rushing resource to that side.

Plus running two and three TE packages strengthens our run game. Let the Dogs (Hall, Cook & Carter) of War LOOSE!

CGVet58

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Personally not a Zach fan, but currently he is the only show in town.

I think one of the biggest issues going forward is, Will Hackett get too conservative with Zach at quarterback.

Right before the go ahead field goal, Garrett was singled covered by a second year, first time starter. Hackett still ran it into 9 in the box.

Costello said that the defense and establishing the running game should be first and foremost unfortunately maybe Costello and Hackett should sit down and watch the 22s from last years game, up in New England.

Belichick had 9 in the box the whole game, and our OC who’s brother is Saleh’s best friend refused to pass the ball.

Throwing the ball in Garrett’s direction could have been a big help in Zach’s development. The Jets will get nowhere keeping Zach wrapped in Saran Wrap, they have to seize the moment when it appears

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Not for nothing, but the running play calls before the go-ahead field goal, I think, were strategic clock management calls on Saleh's part. I get the impression that they wanted to drain as much time off of the clock as possible while forcing the Bills to utilize their timeouts. I'm okay with that kind of strategic move. If they have the same play-calling in the first quarter, that'll be concerning.

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Totally understand, but a TD forces the Bills to drive the field which they did only once. FG, they need to get to 35-40. Fg was 50 yds, meaning they reached 33. Then they lucked out bouncing it off of upright.

Running the ball right call, but I’ll take Garrett Wilson, 1 on 1 against a second year, first year starter. Doing that wether successful or incomplete would always put a little doubt In future games that all the Jets would do is run in the same situation

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Sadly there may be a good reason for the OC's game plan.

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Sep 14, 2023·edited Sep 14, 2023

Enjoy the rest of your vacation. Don’t sweat the brevity of your posts. I always enjoy reading your posts. Happy holiday.

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No Edition today 9/15 ? Now the kicker is out - Another season doomed with injuries and its always to key guys

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I don't doubt that the play calling will be far more conservative than it would have been with Rodgers, but Monday was a very tough spot. The entire game plan was upended immediately. I am hoping they will be a touch more aggressive on Sunday. But, at the end of the day, our best chance in the next 5 games is to be more run heavy and hope that the defense can play as well as they did and create turnovers, potentially turnovers in the plus side of the field. Zach wasn't that bad on Monday, outside of that egregious INT, he made most/all (?) of the easy throws. That's a step forward! We will see; there is too much catching talent on the team to just shut things down.

Anyway, the staff will now be working exclusively with Zach, so the game plans will be more tailored and he will have more reps.

I am quite concerned if he gets hurt though. He's been hurt each of his first two seasons; we really have nothing behind him at all. At a minimum they need to bring someone else in to take that backup spot. Not sure who makes the most sense both from an on the field and off the field perspective, but they need someone.

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The Jets will be O.K. and so will Wilson. Think this is a close game against Dallas with the Jets going 2-0 !!!

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Steve B, sorry but I’m not seeing that but again, it’s not about being right for me. I just think he stinks. Very open to being wrong!

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I was tryng to give him the benfit one last tme - this is it 3rd year. Now i see Greg the Leg is out - this freaking team is useless - i was excited that we had a shot Sunday - I've lost my patience now with these injuries - only the Jets -

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I was needing an afternoon pick-me-up. There's nothing like a healthy dose of hyperbole to energize a fella.

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There is no exaggeration here - when you lose the two guys that score the points one for the year how is that exaggeration ? Its never the 3rd string LB or a practice squad guy - its always a starter and this is what the 6th year in a row with key injuries - i guess that is exaggeration that one team has this many injuries - maybe i do agree with you.

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Consider the fact that the Jets won 7 games last year with a completely decimated offensive line, a cobbled together running back room (post Breece injury), and four different quarterbacks, none of whom (besides Zach Wilson) had the talent to be a current NFL starter, and a single starting caliber safety.

The team improved quite a bit from last year, even considering what the team looked like at the beginning of last year. It's easy to jump to conclusions based on conjecture, but how about we allow the team to actually play some games, eh?

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Im with you Daniel and agree with everything you say here. As a season ticket holder i have seen a grand total of 6 wins at home the past 2 years - 6 thats it. Why - cause either bad QB play or injuries. I was all in even with Rogers going down - totaly supportive of Zack and PREDICTED A BIG Jets win this week. I have a history of 54 years of pure fact of mostly misery and i have to say I am sick of it. Now we hear the kicker is hurt its only week 2. Based on history no conjecture at all - this team is is at best 7-8-9 wins and you just know more injuries are coming. Until the lastest injury figure they would still win 10-11 and win the division - the team is stacked. But when they keep going down .......

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I'll drink to that!

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I’m certainly no Zach fan but I am a Jet fan since the teams inception as the NY Titans. So for now it’s GO Zach! It is what it is. Am I confident? Nope! But I am hopeful. I’ve been wrong before so one more time really won’t surprise my wife for one. As for the game plan I’m pretty sure the Cowboys will be expecting us to stubbornly try to beat them on the ground and with the short passing game. So there will be 9 man boxes and lots of traffic around the line of scrimmage. Pretty sure David’s right, we will know who Zach Wilson is by the bye week. Looking back I never expected Aaron Rodgers to have any reason to want to come here. So I thought maybe a Jacoby Brissett would be a good place holder until we could draft a QB in what looked like a strong 2024 QB draft class. Oh well....

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hey David!

agreed on the anti-fan assessment - it's both bipolar and sydlexic to root against your QB, even worse than last year because we had Mike White who was better than Zach and came through for us before Matt Milano viciously targetted with a helmet-to-ribs shot.

Yes, we know everything about Zach's flaws, but he did show improvement on Monday night. Can he get better? Hopefully yes. I hope AR serves as a QB Whisperer / quasi coach on the sidelines to Zach during upcoming games. I visualize AR, walking boot and all, on the bench, going over video of the defenses Zach is facing, in realtime at the game, and serving as a calming influence to Z. Plus, if we the Fans see AR out there like this, well just Holy Effin' Cannoli, would we be pumped or what?!!?

Now, the downside; we cannot dismiss the possibility that Zach can regress. I really, really hope not, and if I see the team, if I see Garrett get frustrated with him, then I'll be on the verge of jumping off the ledge @ home. Now here's the thing; as I've mentioned in a post earlier this week, I saw a Tell that the team is with Zach, supporting him, AND that he's in tune with this and open to their team first bond. He didn't have that bond last year; don't know why ( MLF? ) but no matter, it looks like he has it now.

I think this team is in this together, as a team, and hope Zach can continue to improve, do the layups/easy stuff like flat/dump off passes, etc. And prob most important, between Hackett, Zach and the entire offense, contrive plays that keep our guys rolling downfield for a couple-a-three first downs, improving field position, netting points if not outright TD's --- and even more important that all of that - KEEPING OUR DEFENSE WELL RESTED SO THEY CAN COME ON THE FIELD AND DEVOUR OPPOSING QB'S

!!!!!!! and I can't put more exclamation points on that, but youze get my drift.

Now, on getting another QB - David I disagree with you about waiting until the break. I say get one now, and start learning up that kid on the Hackett Playbook RIGHT AWAY. Furthermore, if AR is serving as QB Whisperer to one QB (Zach), he can do it with two. And actually they have Boyle on the PS who also knows this system..

I do NOT think getting a QB during the break (because of a presumed good shot at a long run if our record at that point merits pulling the trigger...) will help, since at that point the newB will STILL need to learn the system.

Contrast that, with getting someone now, before week 2, and having a month to learn this up. Thats where i come out on this point.

Another angle - if we wait 'till the break, other teams are going to know the Jets are really wanting this, and push to scour us for more payment. Eff that, and Eff them - get someone now, costs less, and have the newB with more time to get up to speed.

And no, I don't think Boyle unfortunately is that man - he's been in the system a while, some years and his performance doesn't merit this.

Of the options, I like Minshew the best.

'Sfars taking the training wheels off Zach, there's a middle road - yes Hackett runs the play from the sidelines, but start giving Zach limited audible power - such as audibling into a fly pattern to Garrett if he's left facing a sole CB, like happened a few times on Monday Night (and which Bobber correctly noted). Like my pinging on Brich to bring in unexpected blitzes because opposing OC's had gotten used to just seeing our Fearsome Front Four on the rush, the Buffalo OC brazenly left one CB on Garrett because he pretty much was confident that Zach would not change the play at the LOS -- which is something that no one in their right mind would do if AR were under center.

So Hackett, if you're reading this, learn Zach up with limited audible so that if any defense dares to leave a one-on-one with our elite #17, Zach can change the play to punish them for that.

David - have a GREAT vacation! You're Da BEST - and The Jets Way is THE BEST!!!

CGVet58

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