You are a glutten for punishment watching that game again LOL. I wrote Roger Goddell the other day about the state of preseason games. The fact no one plays in them and we are chraged full price. Will i get a answer - no. Made me fell better. Why is no one but me complsing aboy that wated drat pick on the QB they took - i don't get it ? Can just throw picks away like that.
Yeah I really don't get how they can charge full price. In pre-season football over here you'll have the starters play 45-70 minutes of the 90 minutes and then you get to see the youth teams. But Norwich only charge £10 for an adult and £1 for a child, so I don't really mind. Paying full price to not see the starters at all...hell no.
The PFF grades get dumber and dumber every week. Michael Nania did a nice piece that featured every one of Olu’s snaps. I thought he did really well. Especially playing out of position in game conditions for the first time. He had a few issues with his hand placement which resulted in some rep losses but he never really got beat. I’m happy to see RS is following my instructions as if you recall I always wanted a OT in round one. I never felt good about Warren or Mitchell as our swing tackle. So I wanted a quality o-tackle to fill that roll. I think JD got this one right.
I too am pleased with Olu’s performance thus far. I’m glad the giants elected to NOT trade with the jets. Olu isn’t as sexy a pick as Nabers. However with injuries and rest time for Smith and Moses, I think he will play 5-8 games. We need him more than another wide out!
Yeah, I can't imagine having to sit through that game twice, and having to pay full price to see that in person would piss me off royally.
I can't speak for the others, but I don't see it as a wasted pick. You don't draft players for their rookie season. You draft them for their careers. There's a philosophy that Ron Wolff had when he was the Packers' GM, that many GMs have adopted. That is to draft a QB every year. Wolff did that to great success. He drafted mid-and low-round QBs, developed them then traded them for 1st or 2nd round picks.
The Jets needed to draft a QB this year with Rodgers probably playing only this season and next. They needed to try to have at least one QB on the roster who knows the offense when Rodgers retires. Most likely, they aren't going to be able to retain Taylor, and aren't going to have many free $s to use in signing outside FAs, when they're going to have around 30 FAs of their own, plus Sauce, JJ, Wilson, Breece, and MC II to extend.
Even though Travis can't practice right now, he can learn the offense, learn a lot from Rodgers, and sitting in the QB room learn from watching video of practice and games and hear Rodgers, Taylor's, and the coaches' comments and learn. Then hopefully, he'll be able to be Rodgers' back up next season, then either continue as the backup QB, or if he looks good enough, maybe the Jets don't take a QB high in next year's draft and can take a WR in the 1st round. Or they could draft a QB in the 1st round next year, and he either gets a redshirt year while Rodgers starts and Travis is the backup, or is the backup and Travis is the #3 QB, then when Rodgers retires, the QB they draft in 2025 becomes the starter, and Travis is the backup.
Thus imo the pick is only wasted if Travis winds up not being good enough to even serve as a backup QB in the NFL. He has a good chance to become at least a good backup in the NFL, since there is such a dearth of good QBs.
I like your analysis and I agree on them drafting Travis. However, how come they can't retain Taylor next year? He did sign a 2 year contract and in my thinking not at an exorbitant price.
My bad. I didn't realize that he had signed a 2-year contract. I thought he had only signed a 1-year deal. I thought that he would be a FA, and amidst all the other FAs the Jets need to re-sign or replace, and extending Sauce, JJ, Wilson, Breece, and MC II they wouldn't have the cap space to re-sign Taylor, but now they don't have to worry about that. That's great news!
That means that they will have great mentorship for Travis for 2 years.
Due to quite a few changes, the NFL preseason doesn’t resemble what the preseason was like years ago.
Back then You had six exhibition games, camp rosters were probably 50-55 players, final roster 36-38 players?, definitely had 3 or maybe 4 cut down days. Back then, if you cut a player and another team claimed him, you had the right to put that player back on your roster and attempt to trade him to the claiming team.
The exhibition games were played like real games, starters were kept in for 2-3 quarters with the rookies lucky if they got in for one quarter.
The teams had a thing called two a days. Back then, they would have two full time practices in one day, morning session and late afternoon session. Back then, some coaches limited drinking water, Gatorade wasn’t developed yet.
Times have changed, the players contract has limited practices, off season practices have become voluntary and for many players, their first game action is on opening day.
In light of Rodgers 4 play season ending injury last year and Carl Lawson’s joint practice season ending injury, it is safe to say that most Jets fans and probably many members of the Jets organization main concern is for the team stay healthy during the preseason.
With rosters going from 90 to 53 players by 4 pm Tuesday, the two days with the Giants mean more to the bottom 37 than the top 53.
Once that glorified scrimmage is played on Saturday, JD and his staff will be playing “ roster chess”, trying to find ways to keep certain players on the roster or hopefully get them on the 16 man practice squad without being picked up by another team.
Much to some fan’s chagrin, there was anger when the Jets tried to sneak Pinnock thru waivers but was jumped on by the Giants then again it’s possible Jacksonville was trying to sneak Quincy Williams to their practice squad roster when JD jumped on Williams like a cat chasing a mouse.
Their record doesn’t show it but the Jets ARE GOING TO LOSE, some good players on Tuesday.
David, there have been times this off season when I know it was impossible to come up with Jet subject matter, rest well my friend because on Tuesday 4pm NY time which is probably 9 pm London time, your fingers will be kept very busy. Have a teapot of caffeinated tea ready.
It's going to be a very tough cut-down day next Tuesday. That's the dark side of bringing in young talent that seems to be valuable both for the present and the future. I know we all will be bitching and moaning about who should have gotten a roster spot, and vice versa, who didn't deserve a roster spot. What's going to be is going to be. The Jets will be able to keep some players and lose some players that they deem valuable. It's just life in the NFL.
I understand the reason why we are working only at RT but I also fear confusing him or injury. Heard he already hurt his elbow. A lot of times these injuries occur on switching. Diff body movement, footwork, etc and sometime you tweak something because you are thinking too much.
So I’m 50-50 on cross training Olu. We should be developing Warren and Max on RT. I’d leave Olu alone at LT
I'm glad that Corley got a lot of work in practice yesterday and did well.
The Giants will be a good test for the Jets. I always the Jets to win, especially when they play the Giants, but the Jets might be better off losing to the Giants. Maybe they would piss them off, make them more focused, and maybe work a little harder and be ready to take it out on the 49ers in Week 1.
You are a glutten for punishment watching that game again LOL. I wrote Roger Goddell the other day about the state of preseason games. The fact no one plays in them and we are chraged full price. Will i get a answer - no. Made me fell better. Why is no one but me complsing aboy that wated drat pick on the QB they took - i don't get it ? Can just throw picks away like that.
Yeah I really don't get how they can charge full price. In pre-season football over here you'll have the starters play 45-70 minutes of the 90 minutes and then you get to see the youth teams. But Norwich only charge £10 for an adult and £1 for a child, so I don't really mind. Paying full price to not see the starters at all...hell no.
The PFF grades get dumber and dumber every week. Michael Nania did a nice piece that featured every one of Olu’s snaps. I thought he did really well. Especially playing out of position in game conditions for the first time. He had a few issues with his hand placement which resulted in some rep losses but he never really got beat. I’m happy to see RS is following my instructions as if you recall I always wanted a OT in round one. I never felt good about Warren or Mitchell as our swing tackle. So I wanted a quality o-tackle to fill that roll. I think JD got this one right.
I too am pleased with Olu’s performance thus far. I’m glad the giants elected to NOT trade with the jets. Olu isn’t as sexy a pick as Nabers. However with injuries and rest time for Smith and Moses, I think he will play 5-8 games. We need him more than another wide out!
Though he was vilified for years by the fans and the press. Leon Hess was the last owner to charge regular season ticket prices to preseason games.
He held out for years, said it wasn’t fair to the fans.
He was pressured by other owners because the visiting team even for preseason games gets a % of the gate.
The other owners bitched that they were getting short changed when they played the Jets in New York.
Yeah, I can't imagine having to sit through that game twice, and having to pay full price to see that in person would piss me off royally.
I can't speak for the others, but I don't see it as a wasted pick. You don't draft players for their rookie season. You draft them for their careers. There's a philosophy that Ron Wolff had when he was the Packers' GM, that many GMs have adopted. That is to draft a QB every year. Wolff did that to great success. He drafted mid-and low-round QBs, developed them then traded them for 1st or 2nd round picks.
The Jets needed to draft a QB this year with Rodgers probably playing only this season and next. They needed to try to have at least one QB on the roster who knows the offense when Rodgers retires. Most likely, they aren't going to be able to retain Taylor, and aren't going to have many free $s to use in signing outside FAs, when they're going to have around 30 FAs of their own, plus Sauce, JJ, Wilson, Breece, and MC II to extend.
Even though Travis can't practice right now, he can learn the offense, learn a lot from Rodgers, and sitting in the QB room learn from watching video of practice and games and hear Rodgers, Taylor's, and the coaches' comments and learn. Then hopefully, he'll be able to be Rodgers' back up next season, then either continue as the backup QB, or if he looks good enough, maybe the Jets don't take a QB high in next year's draft and can take a WR in the 1st round. Or they could draft a QB in the 1st round next year, and he either gets a redshirt year while Rodgers starts and Travis is the backup, or is the backup and Travis is the #3 QB, then when Rodgers retires, the QB they draft in 2025 becomes the starter, and Travis is the backup.
Thus imo the pick is only wasted if Travis winds up not being good enough to even serve as a backup QB in the NFL. He has a good chance to become at least a good backup in the NFL, since there is such a dearth of good QBs.
I like your analysis and I agree on them drafting Travis. However, how come they can't retain Taylor next year? He did sign a 2 year contract and in my thinking not at an exorbitant price.
Thanks.
My bad. I didn't realize that he had signed a 2-year contract. I thought he had only signed a 1-year deal. I thought that he would be a FA, and amidst all the other FAs the Jets need to re-sign or replace, and extending Sauce, JJ, Wilson, Breece, and MC II they wouldn't have the cap space to re-sign Taylor, but now they don't have to worry about that. That's great news!
That means that they will have great mentorship for Travis for 2 years.
Due to quite a few changes, the NFL preseason doesn’t resemble what the preseason was like years ago.
Back then You had six exhibition games, camp rosters were probably 50-55 players, final roster 36-38 players?, definitely had 3 or maybe 4 cut down days. Back then, if you cut a player and another team claimed him, you had the right to put that player back on your roster and attempt to trade him to the claiming team.
The exhibition games were played like real games, starters were kept in for 2-3 quarters with the rookies lucky if they got in for one quarter.
The teams had a thing called two a days. Back then, they would have two full time practices in one day, morning session and late afternoon session. Back then, some coaches limited drinking water, Gatorade wasn’t developed yet.
Times have changed, the players contract has limited practices, off season practices have become voluntary and for many players, their first game action is on opening day.
In light of Rodgers 4 play season ending injury last year and Carl Lawson’s joint practice season ending injury, it is safe to say that most Jets fans and probably many members of the Jets organization main concern is for the team stay healthy during the preseason.
With rosters going from 90 to 53 players by 4 pm Tuesday, the two days with the Giants mean more to the bottom 37 than the top 53.
Once that glorified scrimmage is played on Saturday, JD and his staff will be playing “ roster chess”, trying to find ways to keep certain players on the roster or hopefully get them on the 16 man practice squad without being picked up by another team.
Much to some fan’s chagrin, there was anger when the Jets tried to sneak Pinnock thru waivers but was jumped on by the Giants then again it’s possible Jacksonville was trying to sneak Quincy Williams to their practice squad roster when JD jumped on Williams like a cat chasing a mouse.
Their record doesn’t show it but the Jets ARE GOING TO LOSE, some good players on Tuesday.
David, there have been times this off season when I know it was impossible to come up with Jet subject matter, rest well my friend because on Tuesday 4pm NY time which is probably 9 pm London time, your fingers will be kept very busy. Have a teapot of caffeinated tea ready.
It's going to be a very tough cut-down day next Tuesday. That's the dark side of bringing in young talent that seems to be valuable both for the present and the future. I know we all will be bitching and moaning about who should have gotten a roster spot, and vice versa, who didn't deserve a roster spot. What's going to be is going to be. The Jets will be able to keep some players and lose some players that they deem valuable. It's just life in the NFL.
Agree that the roster is deeper and better. It will be interesting on the back end who they cut and who they try to get on the practice squad!
I understand the reason why we are working only at RT but I also fear confusing him or injury. Heard he already hurt his elbow. A lot of times these injuries occur on switching. Diff body movement, footwork, etc and sometime you tweak something because you are thinking too much.
So I’m 50-50 on cross training Olu. We should be developing Warren and Max on RT. I’d leave Olu alone at LT
I'm glad that Corley got a lot of work in practice yesterday and did well.
The Giants will be a good test for the Jets. I always the Jets to win, especially when they play the Giants, but the Jets might be better off losing to the Giants. Maybe they would piss them off, make them more focused, and maybe work a little harder and be ready to take it out on the 49ers in Week 1.